New paint, pool update, and other updates throughout! 60 Ocean Course Drive is a light, airy, three-story home beside a tranquil Island lagoon on Kiawah’s private eastern edge.
Some highlights of the home include:
- Multiple tiers of outdoor living spaces - Heated pool, spa, and summer kitchen - Expansive floor-to-ceiling windows - Third-floor game room and additional study two balconies - Two-bedroom guesthouse with living room
Located enviably close to the world-renowned Ocean Course, the exquisite cedar-shingle home at 60 Ocean Course Drive was impeccably constructed with fine finishes and details, from the gorgeous white casing and trim, to the window-lined staircase with its delicate iron balustrade to the wide-plank, dark-stained hardwood flooring that extends through all three levels. Step into the sunlit, two-story foyer, and you’ll discover an airy, high-ceiling interior streaming with natural light.
On the first level, you’ll find the spacious living room with its full bar, and library nook of rich wood; a separate sunlit dining room; a white, windowed kitchen with center island open to a breakfast room with its own fireplace and sundeck; and a study with built-in library bookshelves and fireplace. Ascend to the second level to explore the spacious master bedroom with its two walls of windows and bath with pristine standalone soaking tub, his and hers vanities and walk-in closets, and generously sized separate shower. Completing this level are a stair-top loft space, two ensuite guest bedrooms, and laundry room. The top level is spectacular with a window-lined home office/game room. Each enjoys its own third-story balcony overlooking the stunning views of the serene lagoon and vast marsh.
Bedding: Main house: 3 king bedrooms and a double bedroom Guest house: 1 king bedroom, bedroom with a queen and an xl twin (share a bathroom and small living space)
Pool can be heated for an additional $225 per day (four day minimum required).
No smoking, no pets, and no events will be permitted, no exceptions.
When you stay with ESPM for 3-21 nights you will receive a valuable credit of up to $280 (amount dependent on length of stay) to use toward beach gear, bikes, etc. Credit may not be available for last minute bookings, 48 hours notice is required.
As our guest, you will have access to 5 Championship Golf Courses – including The Ocean Course – the location of the 2021 PGA Championship; The Kiawah Island Resort Tennis Center - #1 ranked by Tennis Resorts Online; Free Wireless Internet Access;. Local Property Management staff is on hand in case of emergencies and their friendly, helpful, and knowledgeable staff can assist you with any needs throughout your stay.
Upon booking you will be sent a rental agreement to review and complete online. Your booking is not confirmed until this document has been submitted.
Town of Kiawah Island Business License #RBL21-000162, max occupancy 14, 3 driveway parking spots, fines issued by Town of $150 and up for additional vehicles and prohibited vehicles, guests are responsible for fines incurred
وسائل الراحة في المنشأة
حمام سباحة/سبا
حمام سباحة خاص
حمام سباحة دافئ
مغطس ساخن
الاتصال بالإنترنت
متوفر في المنزل: خدمة إنترنت
موقف السيارات والنقل
خدمة ركن السيارات داخل المنشأة
مطبخ
أدوات وتجهيزات طهي وأوانٍ للمائدة
ثلاجة
غسالة أطباق
فرن
ماكينة صنع القهوة/الشاي
محمصة خبز
موقد مسطح
ميكروويف
غرف النوم
6 غرفة نوم
تتوفر ملاءات أسرّة
الحمام
5.5 حمام
تتوفر المناشف
مجفف شعر
غرف معيشة
غرفة معيشة
الترفيه
تلفزيون ذا قنوات بث مدفوعة الاشتراك/فضائية
المناطق الخارجية
ساحة خارجية
موقد شواء
خدمة غسيل الملابس
غسالة ملابس
مرافق غسيل الملابس
وسائل راحة
تدفئة
مكيّف هواء
الحيوانات الأليفة
لا يُسمح باصطحاب الحيوانات الأليفة
الملاءمة/تجهيزات ذوي الاحتياجات الخاصة
ممنوع التدخين داخل المنشأة الفندقية
الخدمات والتسهيلات
مكواة/طاولة كي
المعالم البارزة في الموقع
بالقرب من البحر
بالقرب من مرفأ القوارب
أنشطة متوفرة
حمام سباحة دافئ
القيام بجولات سيا حية لمصانع المشروب بالجوار
ألواح ركوب الموج/ التزلج على اللوح بالجوار
جولات بيئية في الجوار
رحلات لصيد الأسماك بالجوار
ساحة ركوب دراجات بالجوار
ساحة لركوب الخيل بالجوار
ساحة للعب الجولف بالجوار
ساحة مراقبة الطيور بالجوار
ملعب كرة سلة بالحوار
سمات الأمان
كاشف لغاز أول أكسيد الكربون (لقد أشار المُضيف إلى وجود كاشف لغاز أول أكسيد الكربون في المنشأة الفندقية)
كاشف الدخان (لقد أشار المُضيف إلى وجود كاشف للدخان في المنشأة الفندقية)
طفّاية حريق
قفل أمان
عام
حجم الوحدة: 557 مترًا مربعًا
السياسات
تسجيل الوصول
يبدأ وقت تسجيل الوصول في 4:00 عصرًا
يتاح تسجيل الوصول وتسجيل المغادرة عن بعد دون تلامس
الحد الأدنى للسن عند تسجيل الوصول: 25
تسجيل المغادرة
تسجيل المغادرة قبل 10 صباحاً
تعليمات خاصة لتسجيل الوصول
ستتلقى رسالةً عبر البريد الإلكتروني من المضيف تتضمّن تعليمات تسجيل الوصول وتسجيل المغادرة
للعلم قد تتم ترجمة المعلومات التي يوفرها مكان الإقامة باستخدام أدوات الترجمة الآلية مما قد يؤثر على صحة المعلومة.
الحيوانات الأليفة
لا يُسمح باصطحاب الحيوانات الأليفة
الأطفال والأسرّة الإضافية
يمكن استضافة الأطفال بكل ترحاب.
الفعاليات
No events allowed
التدخين
Smoking is not permitted
معلومات مهمة
أمور يتعين عليك معرفتها
قد يتم تطبيق رسوم على إقامة شخص إضافي، وتختلف تلك الرسوم تبعًا لسياسة المنشأة
عند تسجيل الوصول، يلزَم تقديم بطاقة هوية شخصية صادرة عن جهة حكوميّة، بالإضافة إلى بطاقة ائتمان أو بطاقة سحب مباشر أو مبلغ تأمين نقدي لتغطية التكاليف النثرية
تخضع الطلبات الخاصة لمدى التوفر وقت تسجيل الوصول، وقد تستلزم سداد رسوم إضافية، ولا يمكن ضمان تلبية الطلبات الخاصة.
تُحظَر إقامة أي حفلات أو فعاليات جماعية في موقع المنشأة
أشار المضيف إلى وجود كاشف لأول أكسيد الكربون في المنشأة الفندقية
أشار المضيف إلى وجود كاشف دخان في المنشأة الفندقية
تشمل ميزات الأمن والسلامة في هذه المنشأة الفندقية طفّاية حريق وقفل أمان
يدير هذه المنشأة الفندقية شريكنا، Vrbo. ستتلقى رسالة بريد إلكتروني من موقع Vrbo بها رابط إلى حساب على Vrbo، حيث يمكنك تغيير حجزك أو إلغائه.
نبذة عن الحيّ
تقع إقامة منزل العطلات هذه على البحر في حي فاندرهورست بلانتيشن بمدينة كياوا أيلاند.يستحق كل من The Ocean Course وملعب تيرتل بوينت للجولف الزيارة في حال وجود نشاط على جدول الأعمال، بينما يُمكن زيارة كل من Kiawah Island Beach ومتنزه نايت هيرون لمن يرغبون في الاستمتاع بالجمال الطبيعي للمنطقة.لا تفوت زيارة كل من The Resort Shop والمتنزه المائي سبلاش زون أيضًا. يُقدم كل من ركوب الأمواج/الاستلقاء على لوح ركوب الأمواج وإمكانية صيد الأسماك في مكان قريب فرصًا رائعة للتنزه في المياة المحيطة، أو يُمكنك الاستمتاع بخوض تجارب مثيرة من خلال إمكانية ركوب الخيل في مكان قريب وجولات بيئية القريبتين.تفضل بزيارة أدلتنا للسفر إلى كياوا أيلاند
Johns Island, SC
الأماكن المجاورة
Kiawah Island Beach
12 من الدقائق سيرًا على الأقدام - 1.1 كم
The Ocean Course
8 من الدقائق بالسيارة - 4.2 كم
ملعب أوسبيري بوينت للجولف
4 من الدقائق بالسيارة - 2.3 كم
ملعب تيرتل بوينت للجولف
15 من الدقائق بالسيارة - 8.3 كم
قرية فريشفيلدز
25 من الدقائق بالسيارة - 18.7 كم
التنقّل في المنطقة
محطة قطارات تشارليستون - على بُعد 63 من الدقائق بالسيارة
FOR LOC IMPORT
مطاعم
Bowen's Island Restaurant
69 من الدقائق بالسيارة
The Nest Market
17 من الدقائق بالسيارة
Jasmine Porch
15 من الدقائق بالسيارة
The Ocean Room
15 من الدقائق بالسيارة
The Lobby Bar
15 من الدقائق بالسيارة
أسئلة متكررة
هل Stunning home close to the Ocean Course مناسبة لاصطحاب الحيوانات الأليفة؟
لا، لا يُسمح باصطحاب الحيوانات الأليفة في هذه المنشأة.
كم يبلغ سعر صف السيارات في Stunning home close to the Ocean Course؟
تتوفر بالمنشأة الفندقية خدمة صف السيارات بداخلها.
ما وقت تسجيل الوصول في Stunning home close to the Ocean Course؟
يبدأ تسجيل الوصول في 4:00 عصرًا.
ما وقت تسجيل المغ ادرة في Stunning home close to the Ocean Course؟
وقت تسجيل المغادرة في 10 صباحاً.
أين تقع منشأة Stunning home close to the Ocean Course؟
توجد إقامة منزل العطلات هذه في فاندرهورست بلانتيشن، على بُعد ٠٫٧ من الأميال (١٫١ كم) من Kiawah Island Beach و 3 أميال (5 كم) من The Ocean Course وملعب أوسبيري بوينت للجولف.ملعب تيرتل بوينت للجولف ومتنزه نايت هيرون أيضًا على بُعد 6 أميال (10 كم).
تقييمات Stunning home close to the Ocean Course
التقييمات
استثنائي
جميع التقييمات الموثّقة المعروضة ناتجة عن تجارب نزلاء حقيقية. يمكن للمسافرين الذين حجزوا إقامتهم معنا فقط إرسال تقييم. نوثّق التقييمات وفقًا لإرشاداتنا وننشر جميع التقييمات، سواء كانت إيجابية أم سلبية.
درجة التصنيف 10 - ممتاز. 24 من أصل 29 من تقييمات النزلاء
10 - ممتاز
24
درجة التصنيف 8 - جيد. 2 من أصل 29 من تقييمات النزلاء
8 - جيد
2
درجة التصنيف 6 - مقبول. 3 من أصل 29 من تقييمات النزلاء
6 - مقبول
3
درجة التصنيف 4 - سيّئ. 0 من أصل 29 من تقييمات النزلاء
4 - سيّئ
0
درجة التصنيف 2 - سيّئ للغاية. 0 من أصل 29 من تقييمات النزلاء
2 - سيّئ للغاية
0
9.8
النظافة
10
الموقع
التقييمات
تقييم موثَّق
10/10 ممتاز
Edwin B.
29 فبراير 2024
عناصر نالت الإعجاب: النظافة، وتسجيل الوصول، وجهة التواصل مع المنشأة، والموقع، ودقة إعلان المنشأة الفندقية
Golf, Am Tour
The place was beautiful I would stay there again
أقام 3 ليالٍ في شهر فبراير عام 2024
من موقع شريك
10/10 ممتاز
Mary B.
7 يونيو 2025
Wonderful get together with family!
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was spotless.
I was very happy with the location.
I was very satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
Everything was fantastic!
تقييم موثَّق
10/10 ممتاز
Pam T.
30 أبريل 2025
عناصر نالت الإعجاب: النظافة، وتسجيل الوصول، وجهة التواصل مع المنشأة، والموقع، ودقة إعلان المنشأة الفندقية
Girls Getaway
Kiawah Island is simply magical and this house did not disappoint. Amenities were as described and the house was spotless.We had a couple of hiccups in the beginning, but the agency was so responsive and worked hard to get it right (which they did). I would absolutely recommend this house and would stay here again in a heartbeat.
أقام 5 ليالٍ في شهر أبريل عام 2025
تقييم موثَّق
10/10 ممتاز
Rob D.
4 نوفمبر 2024
عناصر نالت الإعجاب: النظافة، وتسجيل الوصول، وجهة التواصل مع المنشأة، والموقع، ودقة إعلان المنشأة الفندقية
Outstanding stay
Excellent property, exactly as advertised. Couple of calls to mgmt co to answer a few questions were quick and efficient. Overall a great experience.
أقام 5 ليالٍ في شهر أكتوبر عام 2024
من موقع شريك
10/10 ممتاز
jim c.
9 أغسطس 2022
Cousins Reunion
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was spotless.
I was very happy with the location.
I was very satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
only issue was the rug in the dining room is very easy to trip over. a hazard for kids and older adults. should be replaced or eliminated.
من موقع شريك
10/10 ممتاز
Jonelle S.
16 أغسطس 2022
Perfect home for a large group
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was spotless.
I was very happy with the location.
I was very satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
The rental home was perfect! The location was with easy access to the beach, bicycle paths, and lovely marsh views, exactly what we were looking for. The pool was larger than most, and was a perfect way to relax after a hard day at golf and the beach. We saw turtles hatching on the beach, alligators sunning, and incredible marsh birds fishing. We had a small maintenance issue that was resolved so quickly; I could never get maintenance that fast at my own home! Very impressive response!
من موقع شريك
6/10 مقبول
Anthony G.
21 يونيو 2026
Did not meet expectations
Rating Details:
The property manager was more than helpful.
The vacation rental was very clean.
I was more than happy with the location.
I was very dissatisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I do not recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
When we arrived we discovered we only had one key and we asked for a second key and never received the key. The 3rd floor bathroom ceiling was leaking water and had mold growing so it had been leaking for some time. The pool lights did not work and the pool equipment was in poor condition. The curtains in the master bedroom actually fell on the floor. There were of very poor quality. The house overall is older and needs some investment to update the overall house as it is showing age in all areas. The ice machine in the bar area did not work as it always froze up. The garage smelled very bad as it smelled very musty to the point you did not want to go in the garage. Overall this house at one time was great but it is obvious that the owners have not maintained the property properly and made the investment to keep it in good condition. This house was not worth the amount we paid for the week. We have stayed in other houses at Kiawah for the same amount and the houses were so much nicer and in better condition. I would not recommend renting this house to anyone and I would not rent it again as it was disappointing.
تقييم موثَّق
10/10 ممتاز
Jennifer T.
8 يونيو 2026
عناصر نالت الإعجاب: النظافة، وتسجيل الوصول، وجهة التواصل مع المنشأة، والموقع، ودقة إعلان المنشأة الفندقية
Lovely and spacious home. Well equipped for our group of 10 adults. The pool and spa were a nice treat.
أقام 4 ليالٍ في شهر يونيو عام 2026
تقييم موثَّق
10/10 ممتاز
Stacy D.
13 أغسطس 2025
عناصر نالت الإعجاب: النظافة، وتسجيل الوصول، وجهة التواصل مع المنشأة، والموقع، ودقة إعلان المنشأة الفندقية
Check in was very easy. The communication on gate passes, directions and codes etc were very clear. The house is clean and beautiful. Even though we didn’t have great weather the first two and a half days there was plenty to do inside and plenty of room to get away and have some private time. The kitchen is very well equipped with plenty to pantry storage and a huge fridge. The pool was wonderful to have right there. We used it even in the rain. It was also chilly so they let us heat up the hot tub, which was great for the little ones to warm up from the chilly pool. It wasn’t heating up when we first tried so they sent someone over right away to fix it for us. The beds were comfortable and there was plenty of towels and a great washer and dryer. We rented bikes from espm Vaca rentals and had a great time riding around the beautiful island. We did find it hard to ride bikes all the way onto the beach from the nearest beach access but found that the next one up after Ibis pond was mostly boardwalks and much easier. The grandchildren loved splashing in all the tidal pools at low tide. Overall, it was a wonderful place for a larger family with multigenerational ages.
أقام 4 ليالٍ في شهر أغسطس عام 2025
من موقع شريك
10/10 ممتاز
Becca T.
12 أغسطس 2024
Great house for vacation even during a tropical storm
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was spotless.
I was very happy with the location.
I was very satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
3 families together riding out tropical storm Debby at kiawah. If you’re going to be stuck inside, this is the house to stay in! We loved the spacious living space and bar area. All bedrooms were very comfortable and lots of conveniences. Such as 2 dishwashers, dedicated ice maker and great laundry room on second floor. The pool is lovely and I enjoyed sitting on the kitchen porch overlooking the pool for morning coffee. The beach is half mile walk or bike. The doors in this house are gorgeous! Feels like a palace. It’s well cared for and inviting. We felt safe even with Debby dropping 13 inches of rain one night.
من موقع شريك
10/10 ممتاز
Robert B.
13 يوليو 2024
60 Ocean Course
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was very clean.
I was very happy with the location.
I was very satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
The overall rental experience was great.
من موقع شريك
10/10 ممتاز
Eileen M.
8 يوليو 2024
60 Ocean Course drive
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was spotless.
I was happy with the location.
I was very satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
Lovely home - very well stocked - could not have been nicer.Two criticisms:1. need a second recycle bin - when we arrived bin full from previous tenants and we had lots to add very quickly2.location not as close to beach as I would like
من موقع شريك
10/10 ممتاز
Peter & Diane L.
2 يوليو 2024
Great home
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was very clean.
I was very happy with the location.
I was more than satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
This is a beautiful home. We enjoyed everything about it. The kitchen was well stocked with spices which was really appreciated. I’ve rented many vacation homes over the past years and the kitchen was by far the best. Everyone loved the pool, it needs to be cleaned twice a week not once.
أقام 7 ليالٍ في شهر يونيو عام 2024
من موقع شريك
10/10 ممتاز
Sidney J.
25 يونيو 2024
Our Semi Annual Family Vacation to our Favorite Destination!
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was spotless.
I was very happy with the location.
I was very satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
As Always, ESPM never disappoints with beautiful properties! We have never had a bad experience and will continue visiting the Island.
من موقع شريك
10/10 ممتاز
Danny B.
4 يونيو 2024
Kiawah Family Vacation
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was spotless.
I was very happy with the location.
I was very satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
We had an amazing stay with ESPM. Maddie & her team went above and beyond to accommodate us and make sure our stay was perfect. I would recommend them to anyone coming to the Kiawah area. The home was spacious, with nice furniture, new appliances and room for us to enjoy each others company.
من موقع شريك
8/10 جيد
Gary J.
11 سبتمبر 2023
60 ocean course
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was spotless.
I was more than happy with the location.
I was satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
the experience was good. the property required attention. ESPM is very professional in their handling. Pool is an issue from a cleanliness standpoint.
من موقع شريك
10/10 ممتاز
A guest from ,
12 يوليو 2023
60 Ocean Course
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was spotless.
I was very happy with the location.
I was more than satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
Tremendous experience and great house in the perfect location
من موقع شريك
10/10 ممتاز
rick and debbie k.
2 يونيو 2023
bliss
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was spotless.
I was more than happy with the location.
I was very satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
beautiful home, beautiful pool and hot tub. well stocked kitchen. great for large families.very clean. 8 minute bike ride to beach.
من موقع شريك
10/10 ممتاز
David D.
15 ديسمبر 2022
Fabulous Family Thanksgiving
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was spotless.
I was very happy with the location.
I was satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
Very nice house. Open and spacious. Everyone in the family, ages 10 to 80, really enjoyed the house. There’s plenty of room to gather but also niches for finding private time to read or just to enjoy the beautiful surroundings.
من موقع شريك
10/10 ممتاز
Gary J.
26 سبتمبر 2022
vacation 2022
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was very clean.
I was more than happy with the location.
I was very satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
Great home.
من موقع شريك
10/10 ممتاز
Barry R.
26 يونيو 2022
Perfection!!!
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was spotless.
I was very happy with the location.
I was very satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
This gorgeous home exceeded our expections! It accommodated our family of 13, which included 5 young grandchildren. Everyone had their own space. It was very well appointed and spotless!. We loved having the convenience of a short bike ride or walk to the lovely beach and a beautiful pool, as well! We were celebrating our 50th wedding anniversary...many, many special memories were made! Thank you!
تقييم موثَّق
8/10 جيد
Glenn H.
5 يونيو 2022
عناصر نالت الإعجاب: النظافة، وتسجيل الوصول، وجهة التواصل مع المنشأة، والموقع، ودقة إعلان المنشأة الفندقية
family vacation
very nice except one bedroom on second floor would not cool below 74 degrees and the mattresses in that room were very poor - otherwise great experience, nice facility
أقام 7 ليالٍ في شهر مايو عام 2022
من موقع شريك
10/10 ممتاز
Jennifer N.
26 أبريل 2022
Wonderful Stay
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was spotless.
I was very happy with the location.
I was very satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
Wonderful home to stay in for a family vacation
أقام 7 ليالٍ في شهر أبريل عام 2022
من موقع شريك
10/10 ممتاز
29 نوفمبر 2021
Fabulous home
Rating Details:
The property manager was very helpful.
The vacation rental was spotless.
I was very happy with the location.
I was very satisfied with the condition of the vacation rental.
Overall, I recommend this vacation rental.
Reviewer Comments:
This house is amazing! Everything was very clean, it had a well stocked kitchen, lovely outdoor spaces and beautiful views.
أقام 7 ليالٍ في شهر نوفمبر عام 2021
تقييم موثَّق
10/10 ممتاز
Margie M.
31 يوليو 2021
عناصر نالت الإعجاب: النظافة، وتسجيل الوصول، وجهة التواصل مع المنشأة، والموقع، ودقة إعلان المنشأة الفندقية
Vanderhorst Plantation
We had a large family gathering at the house which provided ample room for multi-generations. We enjoyed the pool, and beach every day. The large kitchen area and great room were perfect for us to gather.
The internet access was a problem for at least half of the stay, but once the problem was Identified it worked fine. The property managers were very helpful.